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M. Toulouse Annice review: choose fixed or Genesis before comparing praise
A returning Annice buyer likes the updated appearance and quality. A separate Genesis owner praises comfort, but its adjustable tree is not a feature of the fixed-tree offer.
In the saddle: at a glance
RIDER PRIORITIES / EQUIPMENT / OWNER EVIDENCE
KEY FEATURES
- Fixed-tree or Genesis offers
- Comfort Fit foam panels
- Removable front and rear blocks
- Reinforced lower leather flaps
YOUR RIDING PRIORITIES
- Consider it for
- Hunter and equitation riders choosing between fixed and adjustable Annice offers
- The tradeoff
- The strongest comfort account comes from the Genesis listing, not the fixed-tree offer.
- Before committing
- Specify fixed Medium/Wide or Genesis.
PROS
- A returning buyer was impressed by the newer Annice’s finish.
- The Genesis version has a specific comfort endorsement.
CONS
- Color choice disappointed an otherwise enthusiastic buyer.
English & stock-saddle assessment
Research judgments · 5-point scale · Horse fit is not scored
The descriptive comfort report belongs to the separate Genesis offer.
Tree types differ; no pooled adjustment score.
One returning buyer praises finish; no extended wear history.
No detailed owner jumping or block-adjustment record.
How to read these bars
Research judgments from original owner evidence. Horse fit and load capacity are not scored; custom and older units remain qualified.
1: serious shortcomings; 2: drawbacks outweigh benefits; 3: mixed experience or setup tradeoffs; 4: repeated positives with caveats; 5: strong consistent evidence without a material unresolved limitation. Not rated means evidence is insufficient. These scores are not averaged into an overall star rating.
Read the original owner accountsTwo offers, one family name
The fixed-tree page describes a laminated beechwood spring tree and lists Medium or Wide choices. The Genesis offer instead describes incremental gullet adjustment. Both list Comfort Fit foam panels, but shared panel branding does not make their tree options interchangeable.
| Decision | Fixed-tree Annice | Genesis Annice |
|---|---|---|
| Tree width | Medium or Wide in captured selector | Adjustable Genesis system |
| Flap choices | Regular or Long | Medium or Long as labeled by seller |
| Seat choices | 16½–19 in in half-inch steps | 16½–19 in half-inch steps |
| Customer aggregate | 5/5 from 2 listing ratings | 5/5 from 1 separate listing rating |
A repeat purchase is not proof of an unchanged fit
The returning rider’s comparison is useful for appearance and enthusiasm, but also mentions upgrades. Check the particular saddle rather than assuming a previous Annice fixes today’s order. The second fixed-listing record is mostly about service and a show deadline; it supplies no independent detail about jumping performance.
The Arena Jump has a different owner concern—surface scratching—and a different panel system. Compare your leg room, finish preferences and exact fit before comparing brand reputations.
Pros & Cons Analysis
Pros
- A rider returning to hunter under saddle chose the same model family again and liked the appearance and perceived improvements. The earlier horse-fit success belongs to the previous saddle; it does not prove the newer unit fits identically.
- The owner on the separate Genesis listing calls the saddle comfortable and appreciates its adjustability. Keep that evidence with the adjustable offer, rather than using it to promise the same feel from every fixed-tree configuration.
Cons
- The returning owner wanted more colors despite praising quality and appearance. This is an aesthetic limitation, not a workmanship complaint; verify the finish available in the required tree and flap.
Choose the tree, then the finish
Your next ride
Make the tree version the first line of the quote.
The strongest comfort account comes from the Genesis listing, not the fixed-tree offer.
Your Annice order notes
Use these as reminders during your trial or seller conversation.
- Specify fixed Medium/Wide or Genesis.
- Confirm flap measurements and block placement.
- Check the available leather color on the actual offer.
What changes this choice
The Annice is appealing when a familiar close-contact layout and covered leather matter. Resolve fixed versus Genesis first, then trial the flap length and block placement. The repeat buyer’s enthusiasm is a reason to inspect the newer saddle, not to skip fitting because an older Annice once worked.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is every Annice 3801 adjustable?
No. The fixed-tree listing offers Medium or Wide, while the separate Genesis listing has the adjustable gullet mechanism. Have the tree version written on the order.
Are the three ratings one combined customer score?
No. Two ratings belong to the fixed-tree listing and one to Genesis. The main rating card displays the primary listing only; the version-specific account is identified in the review.
Technical Specifications
| Model / scope | M. Toulouse Annice 3801 Merchant; Merchant |
|---|---|
| Intended use | Hunter / equitation / close-contact riding Merchant; Merchant |
| Seat sizes | 16½–19 in in half-inch steps on both listings Merchant; Merchant |
| Seat construction | Medium-deep padded seat; fixed listing calls twist medium/wide, Genesis medium Merchant; Merchant |
| Tree construction | Fixed: laminated beechwood spring tree; Genesis: adjustable tree, core not specified Merchant; Merchant |
| Tree / bar options | Fixed Medium or Wide; Genesis incremental adjustment Merchant; Merchant |
| Main materials | Double/covered leather flaps and jockeys; reinforced lower flap Merchant; Merchant |
| Published saddle weight | Not documented in the captured exact-model sources |
| Included equipment | Genesis wrench described; complete mounts package not specified Merchant; Merchant |
| Riding subtype | Close-contact / jumping; fixed and Genesis variants kept separate Merchant; Merchant |
| Panel system / filling | Comfort Fit foam panels; fixed listing describes two foam densities Merchant; Merchant |
| Panel length | Not documented in the captured exact-model sources |
| Gullet adjustment system | Fixed tree has no Genesis mechanism; Genesis offer separately adjustable Merchant; Merchant |
| Flap length | Fixed selector: Regular or Long; Genesis: Medium or Long; dimensions not documented Merchant; Merchant |
| Flap forwardness | Close-contact design; angle not documented Merchant; Merchant |
| Knee / thigh blocks | Removable front and rear blocks Merchant; Merchant |
| Girth points / billet configuration | Not documented in the captured exact-model sources |
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